Today, whilst on the phone with my boyfriend, I said that I'd been listening to a lot of Bikini Kill lately. "Oh," he replied. "Goodbye." I laughed.
"I mean, if you wanna grow out your armpit hair and rip your bra in half, go ahead," he continued.
"At this point in my life, I think I'm less likely to become a true riotgrrl, so don't worry about it," I responded, jokingly.
Thinking about it, if I had gotten seriously into Bikini Kill when I was 14 and getting into punk, I might have turned out to be a super-feminist Kathleen Hanna wannabe with an attitude and a nose ring and an uncensored hatred of patriarchy. I consider myself a reasonable feminist who just wants a continuation of the progression society has seen in the past 20 years or so of equal rights. But shit, growing up with my mother who is an ultra-feminist to the point of having a "women can do everything better" standpoint, listening to Rebel Girl in my formative teen years could have sent me over the edge.
I was reading about the mini-feud between Bikini Kill and NOFX recently. First of all, I love reading about band feuds. It just makes me feel like the world of music, which seems so large and intimidating and all encompassing, can actually be really small and splintered. Anyway, apparently Kathleen Hanna called NOFX a bunch of misogynists (perhaps for their numerous annoyingly uninformed songs about lesbians?) causing them to write the song "Kill Rock Stars," a direct attack on Hanna.
"Kill the rockstars" how ironic, Kathleen
You've been crowned the newest queen
Kinda like the punk rock Gloria Steinham
You can't change the world by blaming men
Can't change the world by hating men
Alternative\Republican
Just cause I don't know the reason you're so pissed
Don't dare tag me mysoginist
I thought the goal here was mutual respect
Not constructing a separate sect
I wish I could have seen Courtney
Demonstrate some real misogyny
Can't change the world by hating men
While I am certainly not a fan of NOFX's "Creeping Out Sara,"
(Maybe I just pissed her off when I asked her if her sister and her had ever had a threesome/Where they both ganged up on one girl/
A fourgy or a five-some/ Do they think strap-ons are groovy?) and also the Courtney Love ref was kinda lame, I can see Fat Mike's point on this one. It's really hard to get people to listen to you if you're constantly berating them. Feminism is such a sore point with men now because they've been hearing about it from strongly opinionated women like Hanna, who don't see a discussion to be had--only a lesson to be taught. I've seen this at AU with Women's Initiative. WI claims to want to create a dialogue between men and women, and then turn around and make sweeping statements about men based on the few shitty sexist assholes they've come across. And it sucks for everyone involved. Men feel attacked, and thus feminism gets a really bad rap. The riotgrrl movement was a really awesome way for women to get out into the music scene, which I really appreciate because that's a tough thing to do--especially in a typically boys-club genre like punk or hardcore. I think it was fucking great that this movement happened, and I think women needed it. But besides empowerment within the female community, I don't know how much positive impact the movement had on society as a whole.
But Bikini Kill is sweet--they're rough and rude and unapologetic, and sometimes you need that. I'm a feminist and I believe all that Kathleen Hanna, Kim Gordon, and Allison Wolfe believe about reproductive rights, rape, domestic abuse, and freedom of sexuality. But I know that to really see equality--to really get both genders on the same page--there may need to be less screaming, and more listening.